For an American young person, the first twenty years of life can be remarkably systematic. You go to school, then high school, and – for many – college.

Though there are a multitude of challenges and decisions to be faced, there’s a framework of what you’re supposed to do, to accomplish, and where you’re supposed to end up at the end of the educational line – with a job!

But then what? After a young adult enters the workforce, suddenly that framework has disappeared, and their environment has altered completely. For many of us, the experience can prove confusing and disorienting.

So to hone in on this central season of life today we welcome alongside Paul Angone! We head On the Road with this author, speaker, and the creator of AllGroanUp.com, which has received millions of visitors from over 180 countries. And his latest work is aptly titled All Groan Up. Paul hails from sunny Los Angeles, where he lives with his wife and children. Paul shares his extremely relateable journey, and offers a bevy of insight for this potentially tricky trek. To hear the full chat, just head to the bottom of this post, or hear some compelling highlights from the conversation first.

Paul has an apt & amusing way of describing his initial foray into the job market.

Highlight: Out the helicopter

Headlines and articles continue to be churned out on the ways in which the millennial generation parts company with previous generations – and much of that analysis isn’t positive. So is there something wrong with us as millennials?

Highlight: Something wrong?

Failure is an inescapable feature of life – and seems particularly prevalent in this phase of our lives. Yet, Paul believes it can be one of the most helpful things that can happen to us.

Highlight: Failure

And now our full conversation with Paul – featuring a candid discussion about his story and lots of hope for this potentially befuddling phase of our lives.

All Groan Up